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tenonx
24-02-2011, 01:03 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/185654_1629937756916_1490778378_31408732_7101886_n .jpg
male momotaro sanke certificate 55 cm

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185654_1629937596912_1490778378_31408731_3772527_n .jpg
mom's Indonesian bred 68 cm

anyone can predict how the babies will become ?

bobo
24-02-2011, 01:18 PM
IMHO

to the results of this spawning, sumi is likely a good bit, considering Parents also have a little sumi.
For the body seems to be good as well for hi.
hopefully the result is better than I expected, because look at the history of her husband Momotaro Sanke finish at the age of tosai or Nisai.

tenonx
25-02-2011, 03:11 PM
thanks for your opinion bro, how 'bout the others, are there more opinions ?

neutokoi
25-02-2011, 03:23 PM
Broda Tenonx,
Any idea of the grand parents, are all also from Sanke or mix category, just want to know how "pure" they are..

tenonx
25-02-2011, 04:20 PM
i'm so sorry bro, i didn't know about the parent of this two oyagoi, there is a certificate for the momotaro sanke, but i never read about their bloodline. and as for the female we buy it from a local koi dealer since it was 20 cm
so what do you think about their babies bro ?

GenKoi
25-02-2011, 06:14 PM
Male sanke is very good deep red and sharp kiwa, hopefully some of the babies have character such as the male oyagoi

tenonx
25-02-2011, 07:14 PM
thank you for your very good opinion sir, i hope i can learn more from you
if i may ask, what do you think about the female oyagoi, can the babies have the character such as the female oyagoi?

shreddymaster
25-02-2011, 07:41 PM
just opinion from newbie

i think the sanke, have a good colour and pattern... but unfortunately the water on vessel is dirty... and honestly annoying my sight... and for mom's why she has orange colour?? not red like male?? or maybe the colour not yet finishing or indeed the type like that?

neutokoi
26-02-2011, 04:48 AM
Om Tenonx, the father looks more like a kohaku to me, just because he has a tiny shimmy at his back made him a sanke, hope the baby have the character of beni from their father and the sumi character from the mother, especially the location of the sumi, always at the right place

tenonx
26-02-2011, 02:38 PM
bro SM: in my opinion, most of female koi has orange color, but can become deep red for some fish, but for this female sanke maybe her pattern type is orange and will never change into red

bro NK : in the certificate, this fish has more sumi, but in the development it disappear and not come back until now
i'll try to post the picture of their babies soon

AirBiru
27-02-2011, 09:23 PM
The Hi and the pattern of the Male is good for me.
But the Female body is not promising.
Just my opinion.

tenonx
27-02-2011, 10:02 PM
thanx you for your opinion bro, what do you thing about their babies ?
because this isn't just appreciation of the oyagoi but more like predict the babies :mrgreen:

neutokoi
28-02-2011, 07:55 AM
show us picture of the offsprings please....:rockon:

tenonx
28-02-2011, 01:37 PM
some of the offsprings
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1365.snc4/163732_1578469470241_1490778378_31316249_447368_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs745.ash1/163732_1578469630245_1490778378_31316250_992550_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs745.ash1/163732_1578470310262_1490778378_31316253_670359_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1365.snc4/163732_1578469950253_1490778378_31316252_2606344_n .jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs733.ash1/162736_1578464670121_1490778378_31316239_5017753_n .jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1355.snc4/162736_1578464470116_1490778378_31316238_7294241_n .jpg

hope these would be great fishes someday
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1389.snc4/164103_1578470790274_1490778378_31316256_7397307_n .jpg

below are the fish that already chosen
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs029.ash2/34829_1581208578717_1490778378_31322204_7389052_n. jpg
ALL chosen

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs029.ash2/34829_1581208778722_1490778378_31322205_7356853_n. jpg
part 1

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs069.snc4/34829_1581209058729_1490778378_31322207_890084_n.j pg
part 2

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs069.snc4/34829_1581209218733_1490778378_31322208_81084_n.jp g
All at pond

gunradal
02-09-2011, 01:50 PM
i hope one of those babies will become GC in the future..
salut for local breeder..:clap2:

KANGGA
30-09-2012, 07:56 PM
Bro Any new update from this thread ?.... It would be interesting sees how those fries grow up after more than a year.....

epoe
19-07-2013, 03:40 AM
Momotaro fish tends to have good solid body with bright colours, as intended by the breeder themself. So the gen is should be Ok from the male oyagoi.
But the female oyagoi ? who has the history of its gen? let assume it has a good gen too (body, pattern, shiroji-hi-sumi, and luster).
Mendel's theory said what ?
The babies will evenly carried their parents gen, except if one of the parents has a very strong gen .... in this case, the history is not well known.
Lets also assume, the parents have equal strong gen; then the babies will evenly have their parents "pictures".
How many babies considered have good "characters" inherited ? less than 1%, the rest will go to the mouth of Arwana eventually.
That's is my own thinking ...... dont take it seriously !

ipaul888
16-05-2015, 12:29 AM
nice comment epoe san, good to know