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sugureta_koi
23-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Hallo para suhu ...
boleh minta pendapat tentang kolam baru yang lagi kita bikin.
masih newbie, tapi udah demen experiment bikin kolam (hehehehe)

Ukuran Kolam = 3 m x 3,5 m x 1,2 m
Ukuran Filter = 1 m x 1 m x 1 m (4 chamber - vortex, karang, bioball, and more bioball)
Bottom Drain 4" and skimmer 2"

Sketsa Filter bisa dilihat disini : http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sugureta. ... 1621412594 (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sugureta.koi/SmallPond/photo#5226032161621412594)
Foto-Foto Konstruksi bisa dilihat disini : http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sugureta. ... nstruction (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sugureta.koi/PondConstruction)

ditunggu kritiknya, terima kasih.

KARHOMA
23-07-2008, 05:30 PM
Bagus pak kolamnya, sederhana.
BD ditaro di tengah2 main pond ya pak?
Saya suka dgn vortexnya kelihatan rapi sekali, kalo boleh tanya gimana cara bikinnya, soalnya dulu tukang saya gak bisa disuruh bikin vortex begitu.

Masukan dari saya mungkin ini aja pak, sudut2nya jangan lupa dibikin cekungan soalnya kebocoran biasanya terjadi dari sebelah sini.
Ini contoh yg dibikin koi_lemes ama sunu.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll293/KARHOMA/img1374oj9.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll293/KARHOMA/IMAGE_122.jpg

Update terus perkembangannya pak ... 8)

steamkoi
23-07-2008, 06:03 PM
Kolamnya Ok Pak :) Simple dan rapih :) nice ;)

hankoi
23-07-2008, 08:08 PM
Kapan jadi nya pak k0lam nya :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

sugureta_koi
23-07-2008, 09:06 PM
Terima Kasih pak Karhoma, Pak Irvan dan Pak Hankoi.
Kami sedang mencoba buat kolam untuk menampung hobby kami, siapa tau bisa jadi pinter seperti senior-senior disini.
Wah, report juga yah kalau bocornya dari sudut. Mending saya buat cekungan deh, tanggung. Kalau sudah isi air repot beresinnya.
Thanks atas sarannya pak.

Selesainya mudah-mudahan minggu ini. Tetapi paling baru kolamnya saja.
Bedengnya masih perlu dirapihkan, ada genteng yang bolong dan bersih-bersih pak.
Akan saya update terus...

sugureta_koi
23-07-2008, 09:09 PM
Lupa saya jawab pertanyaannya pak Karhoma.
Sepertinya tukang saya pake gentong pak sewaktu membentuk bunderannya.
Selebihnya tinggal di plester sama dia.

svenni
23-07-2008, 09:30 PM
Hi Pak,

finishing looks good. However what is your intended frequency of cleaning the filter? I would at least add brushes at the Vortex to minimize the dirt accumulation at the bio ball chambers. The filter setup will work but you really need to clean it very frequently to maintain a good water quality.

koi54n
24-07-2008, 12:54 AM
mantapp. semangat terus!!! :D :D

h_andria
24-07-2008, 08:05 AM
Apakah ada comment dari Senior yg menggunakan Vortex chamber dengan menggunakan Coran Base (maaf.. bener gak tulisannya) .. yg biasa digunakan untuk selokan/got?

btw...
Kolamnya bagus Pak..

paimo
24-07-2008, 08:36 AM
pak....mau nanya....dalam kolam 1.2mtr dan dalam filter 1mtr.
apakah dasar filter dan dasar kolam sejajar atau dasar filter 20cm lebih tinggi dari dasar kolam...?

sugureta_koi
24-07-2008, 11:37 AM
Hi Pak,

finishing looks good. However what is your intended frequency of cleaning the filter? I would at least add brushes at the Vortex to minimize the dirt accumulation at the bio ball chambers. The filter setup will work but you really need to clean it very frequently to maintain a good water quality.

Hi Svenni,

First of all, sorry i don't give abbreviation in front of you name. I'm not sure to call you pak or bu. :?
Now, regarding the brushes at the vortex - my understanding is that vortex chamber is where the solid dirt is forced to settle due to the water movement inside the round chamber (I myself called vortex chamber is a fancy settlement chamber).
If we put brushes inside the vortex, wouldn't it be blocking the vortex water movement itself ? Please advise.
From the vortex the water will flow to the first chamber (from the bottom to the surface) through either jap mat or batu karang.
All the solid dirt that pass through the vortex should be filtered at the bottom of this chamber. I put a drainage pipe to clean this regularly.
And so on to the last chamber.

Dag dig dug juga kalau salah concept nih ogut.... :(
Please help clarify. Thanks all.

sugureta_koi
24-07-2008, 11:43 AM
pak....mau nanya....dalam kolam 1.2mtr dan dalam filter 1mtr.
apakah dasar filter dan dasar kolam sejajar atau dasar filter 20cm lebih tinggi dari dasar kolam...?


Dear pak paimo,

Dasar filter lebih naik pak dibanding kolam.
Saya taruh pipa 1.5" di setiap dasar setiap chamber untuk drainase. Saya pikir saya tidak mau menaruh ball valve nya di bawah permukaan tanah karena akan sering di gunakan (buka tutup) jadi ngakalinnya dasar filter saya naikin sekitar 20 cm dari permukaan tanah.
Tidak ada potensi masalah kan ya menurut pak Paimo ? mudah-mudahan tidak ada, kalau gak saya yang pusing pak. :P

KARHOMA
24-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Kenapa saya konsen pada kemungkinan kebocoran di kolam karena kalo kolam udah jadi dan ternyata bocor akan memakan waktu, tenaga pikiran dan uang lagi pak ... :( :( :(

Pengalamana saya kemarin waktu renovasi kolam, dana yg saya habiskan untuk memperbaiki kebocoran hampir seperempat dari total dana bahan2 kolam (kolam saya murah meriah pak :P ) dan kebocoran rawan terjadi di bak/chamber filter, karena bidang yg kecil tsb si tukang rada susah mengerjakannya.

Mudahan kolam bapak gak bocor dan terus semangat pak :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

sugureta_koi
24-07-2008, 03:07 PM
'Tul Sekali pak ...
Saya pernah punya problem itu, sampe di water proof berulang-ulang, tetep aja airnya berkurang signifikan setiap hari.
Terima Kasih atas sarannya pak. :) :)

svenni
24-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Hi Pak,

finishing looks good. However what is your intended frequency of cleaning the filter? I would at least add brushes at the Vortex to minimize the dirt accumulation at the bio ball chambers. The filter setup will work but you really need to clean it very frequently to maintain a good water quality.

Hi Svenni,

First of all, sorry i don't give abbreviation in front of you name. I'm not sure to call you pak or bu. :?
Now, regarding the brushes at the vortex - my understanding is that vortex chamber is where the solid dirt is forced to settle due to the water movement inside the round chamber (I myself called vortex chamber is a fancy settlement chamber).
If we put brushes inside the vortex, wouldn't it be blocking the vortex water movement itself ? Please advise.
From the vortex the water will flow to the first chamber (from the bottom to the surface) through either jap mat or batu karang.
All the solid dirt that pass through the vortex should be filtered at the bottom of this chamber. I put a drainage pipe to clean this regularly.
And so on to the last chamber.

Dag dig dug juga kalau salah concept nih ogut.... :(
Please help clarify. Thanks all.

Hi Pak,

no problem about the name. I also have my difficulties sometimes to figure out whether an Indonesian name is for a male or a female. In my case, I am a male :mrgreen:

I think the system with the jap mat will also work. For the brushes it is normally no problem to use in a Vortex, the water will still circulate under the brushes and the bigger particles would settle. I think your system will work either way. The most important is the regular cleaning.

Maybe you could post new pics when the pond is finished and the filter has matured.

troy
24-07-2008, 10:38 PM
lagian selain untuk menghindari kebocoran,bentuk lengkungan juga akan mempermudah arus atas mengalir,jadi permukaan air kolam akan cenderung mudah mengalir kearah overflow dan permukaan kolam akan selalu kelihatan bersih.

paimo
25-07-2008, 08:08 AM
Dear pak paimo,

Dasar filter lebih naik pak dibanding kolam.
Saya taruh pipa 1.5" di setiap dasar setiap chamber untuk drainase. Saya pikir saya tidak mau menaruh ball valve nya di bawah permukaan tanah karena akan sering di gunakan (buka tutup) jadi ngakalinnya dasar filter saya naikin sekitar 20 cm dari permukaan tanah.
Tidak ada potensi masalah kan ya menurut pak Paimo ? mudah-mudahan tidak ada, kalau gak saya yang pusing pak. :P[/quote]

saya juga pemula pak...newbie dan amatir....
kolam kecilku bocor....mau perbaiki tanggung kolam kadung tak memenuhi syarat....jadi ada rencana mau buat kolam lagi yg mendekati standart.....
jadi mau banyak belajar dulu dari rekan2 dikoi`s...

kita tunggu update perkembangan kolam selanjutnya.....

KARHOMA
25-07-2008, 09:12 AM
pak Paimo ditunggu loh kolam barunya ........ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

sugureta_koi
25-07-2008, 03:30 PM
Hi Pak,

finishing looks good. However what is your intended frequency of cleaning the filter? I would at least add brushes at the Vortex to minimize the dirt accumulation at the bio ball chambers. The filter setup will work but you really need to clean it very frequently to maintain a good water quality.

Hi Svenni,

First of all, sorry i don't give abbreviation in front of you name. I'm not sure to call you pak or bu. :?
Now, regarding the brushes at the vortex - my understanding is that vortex chamber is where the solid dirt is forced to settle due to the water movement inside the round chamber (I myself called vortex chamber is a fancy settlement chamber).
If we put brushes inside the vortex, wouldn't it be blocking the vortex water movement itself ? Please advise.
From the vortex the water will flow to the first chamber (from the bottom to the surface) through either jap mat or batu karang.
All the solid dirt that pass through the vortex should be filtered at the bottom of this chamber. I put a drainage pipe to clean this regularly.
And so on to the last chamber.

Dag dig dug juga kalau salah concept nih ogut.... :(
Please help clarify. Thanks all.

Hi Pak,

no problem about the name. I also have my difficulties sometimes to figure out whether an Indonesian name is for a male or a female. In my case, I am a male :mrgreen:

I think the system with the jap mat will also work. For the brushes it is normally no problem to use in a Vortex, the water will still circulate under the brushes and the bigger particles would settle. I think your system will work either way. The most important is the regular cleaning.

Maybe you could post new pics when the pond is finished and the filter has matured.


Surely Mr. Svenn..i'll put up some pics when the new pond is finished.
Thanks for the suggestion, sir. We'll see the outcome of this system, i might need all the help from the masters here. :D :D :D

paimo
31-07-2008, 11:17 AM
gimana perkembangan kolamnya pak sugureta....apakah sudah diisi air....apakah flow air difilter sudah seimbang.....?

KARHOMA
31-07-2008, 11:44 AM
Lagi ambil ancang-ancang kayaknya pak ... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

sugureta_koi
01-08-2008, 08:51 PM
gimana perkembangan kolamnya pak sugureta....apakah sudah diisi air....apakah flow air difilter sudah seimbang.....?

Sudah selesai di cat dan di beresi pak bedengnya, rencananya mau mulai diisi air untuk test flow ratenya minggu depan. Nanti ta' kabari ...
By the way, sorry gak pake signature di setiap posting saya. Nama saya Alvin (Koi ID nya masih menunggu dari sekertariat Kois)

Foto terakhir sudah saya upload di : http://picasaweb.google.com/sugureta.ko ... 2890116834 (http://picasaweb.google.com/sugureta.koi/PondConstruction/photo#5229546312890116834)

spirulina
06-08-2008, 12:42 AM
Sukses pa Alvin memelihara koinya.