PDA

View Full Version : Montmorillonite Clay



koiworks
25-07-2008, 04:25 PM
Ada yang tahu tentang Montmorillonite Clay? Dipasaran misalnya ada merk REFRESH.

Apakah betul bisa meningkatkan clarity dari air kolam?

Ini adalah salah satu artikel tentang itu.

Montmorillonite Clay in Koi Ponds

This article was written by Kusuri Products USA
The best way to keep Koi would be to have a very large mud pond at the bottom of our garden. Our very own natural ecosystem, which we know, would be the best for our Koi. Impractical of course, because we want to see our Koi, feed them, care for them, and take pleasure in their majestic beauty, etc.
If you were to ask the experts, (that being the well known breeders in Japan), their opinion about the conditions in which we in the northern hemisphere could use to keep our pets healthy and vibrant in the limited closed pond environment, they would offer the usual answers: good water quality, natural foods, no overstocking, keeping the organic debris low, etc. And if asked why the water in certain areas of Japan is better for Koi, they would say that the natural mountain and spa waters all contain a high presence of minerals.
Minerals are vital. Whether human or fish, an intake in some form is required to sustain life. Koi in a natural environment can ingest minerals, intake minerals in solution through the gills, (osmosis), and, to a minor degree, through the skin itself. Koi kept in mineralized mountain or spa water do directly benefit from the high presence of minerals in the form of better color, scale luster, growth, health, and white pigmentation. However, when translated into the conditions in our home ponds, the mineral content in most public water supplies do not provide enough of the many trace mineral elements that are beneficial to Koi. What little minerals are available are removed from the water very rapidly by the Koi in a closed pond system where water is not constantly replaced. Montmorillonite clay can replenish the water with minerals, and improve Koi as mentioned above. Montmorillonite clay is widely used by the hobbyist to help replenish the water mineral quality and maintain Koi color, luster, health, etc. as mentioned above.
So what is the magical substance? Montmorillonite is the collective name given to a very wide range of clay mineral powders found all over the world. They come in many forms: Bentonites, Hectorites, Saponites; the list of defined types is extensive, though very few are suitable for a Koi pond, some are processed clays used in the oil and pharmaceutical industries because of their ability to refine and absorb colorants, vegetable oil, etc. Some clays contain metals and phosphates; some clays react with water, and alkalinity/acidity levels are changed. An inappropriate clay can cloud a Koi pond and irritate Koi for days!
Montmorillonite clay gets its name from the French town where it was first mined as long ago as 1874. It is essentially a hydrated alumino-silicate. The lattice layer structure of the material when added to a Koi pond will absorb water, and through a process called Ion exchange, minerals are released into the water. Secondly, a high purity clay can absorb protein and color from water, giving a pond a remarkable increase in clarity. Clay is not like salt, for example, and does not dissolve completely. A little powder will settle in a pod, and most Koi will readily ingest the mineral powder.
This has led to some interesting university research in the U.K. Independent research at the University of Exeter, Devon. Marine biologists have proen that a specific montmmorillonite mineral clay, (supplied by Kusuri Products Ltd.), when also added to food, will potentially increase the growth rate on Vyprinid species by up to 21%. The research suggests that this particular clay incorporated into a Koi diet, acts as a catalyst for better absorption of food nutrients by bonding aflotoxins to the clay. High purity clays are pure earth mineral products and should contain no chemicals, metals, or phosphorous elements.
Normally the clay is supplied as a very fine powdered product. To apply to a pond, take the measured amount of powder, and mix into a gallon bucket of water from the pond. Because the pond will go milky in color for a few hours, clay is normally applied in ponds in the evening. Add about 1/2 the solution around the pond, or by your water return. Then add the remainder about 30 minutes later, after mixing the solution again. The average pond should clear in about 8-12 hours, and an increase in water clarity improvement and Koi appetite may be noted 24 hours after application. Regular weekly use will normally improve the color and white luster on Koi in about 4-6 weeks. Beneficial minerals added to pond water should ideally be applied weekly all year round, and can be used at any pond temperature. A good mineral clay with the correct analysis, in the correct proportions added to our enclosed ponds, will result in better water clarity, Koi health, growth, vitality, and color.
High purity clays are few, but there are 1 or 2 products that have many users, notably Refresh and Humin powder from Japan, and, more economically: Kusuri Klay

Penta
25-07-2008, 04:52 PM
Belum pernah coba Pak ?
Kita tunggu teman2 yang pernah pakai untuk di sharring informasinya.

Thanks & regards

rvidella
25-07-2008, 05:14 PM
kayaknya abis ini pak adeng disuruh terjemahin nih :? :? :?

koiworks
25-07-2008, 10:18 PM
kayaknya abis ini pak adeng disuruh terjemahin nih :? :? :?

Bukan begitu Do. Saya cuma ambil mentah-mentah dari sumbernya.

Mungkin ada yang pernah pakai clay? Di Golden Koi dan Koi Collection kayaknya ada.

svenni
25-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Hi Pak,

I have imported the clay from Germany ("Refine"). This clay is very good for the koi as long as it is used as a food supplement. It is also true that the water will clear up if applied to the pond but that is a very expensive way to clear the pond water :wink:

If you want to do something for the nutrition of your koi......fully agreed and recommended (in that case just mix the Refresh or Refine with the koi food). If you are considering that product as a clarifier for the pond, please invest the money in a proper filter system rather than in that clay :mrgreen:

koiworks
26-07-2008, 03:37 PM
Thank you Svenn.

Regards.

Davkoi
23-08-2008, 10:15 PM
If you want to do something for the nutrition of your koi......fully agreed and recommended (in that case just mix the Refresh or Refine with the koi food).

how many gram of refresh for 1 kg koi food :?: :?: :?:

chester
24-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Sekedar info,

Tujuan penggunaan Refresh dan produk sejenisnya adalah bukan untuk menjernihkan air. Kalau air mau 'terlihat' jernih dengan menggunakan chemicals, dengan biaya yang jauh lebih murah, bom saja kolam dengan malachite green atawa methylene blue, besoknya langsung kinclong :lol: tapi hal ini tidak dianjurkan apabila tidak ada precautions tertentu yang akan ditindak terhadap ikan2 di kolam. Lebih murah lagi pakai tawas cuma ikan bisa kusut. :lol:

Air terlihat jernih setelah di Refresh dll adalah side effect penggunaanya, bukan tujuan utama.

Tujuan utama penggunaan produk tsb adalah utk menambah/menghasilkan mineral2 tertentu yang baik buat kesehatan dan pertumbuhan ikan karena air di kolam kita tidak menghasilkan mineral2 sendiri, mesti ada tindakan external utk menjaga atau meningkatkan kadar mereka di kolam. Buat penghobi yang menggunakan running water dari mata air dsb penggunaan produk ini mungkin tidak perlu karena selalu ada supply air baru mengandung mineral yang sifatnya endless (tentunya setelah diperkuat uji lab thd main water yang menggaransi bhw kadar mineral yang diperlukan cukup lumayan tersedia).

Refresh sekarang sudah agak ditarik dari pasar oleh produsennya di Jepang karena mereka mengaktifkan kembali produk sejenis tapi dengan (katanya) plus bakteri, namanya PSB Bio Healthy.

Efek yang agak mengganggu pandangan setelah penggunaan di kolam adalah timbulnya endapan2 di dasar yang baru akan hilang beberapa hari berselang. Kadang-kadang juga dimakanin ikan, yang juga ok ok saja. Saya biasanya memakainya di chamber2 filter.

Pencampuran refresh/psb dll di makanan ikan juga bukan suatu hal yang baru. Sakai kadang melakukannya secara berkala buat ikan2 mereka di green house (bukan yang di mud pond karena running water dari main water mereka sudah sangat baik kadar mineralnya, god given :) ). Cara pencampurannya sekedarnya saja diaduk sehingga membungkusi pellet. Tidak ada dosis tertentu, over dosispun tidak akan membunuh ikan.

cheers

harryachta
12-06-2012, 03:20 PM
TQ OM CHESTER. berarti clay ini cukup bermanfaat ya untuk kolam tertutup

showa
12-06-2012, 03:48 PM
terus terbaca informasinya , alhamdulilah jadi mamfaat bayangkan itu dari 2008 terbaca lagi atau di respon ulang tahun 2012.

begitu bermamfaatnya semua informasi di forum ini...

semoga membuat kawan kawan lainnya rajin menulis yg bermamfaat utk kawan lainnya sehingga amalnya terus dapat ngalir.

waterkeeper
12-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Betul kata om om diatas ... Kalau mau jernihkan air mending perhatikan filtrasinya - it's better to prevent than cure.
Saya masih pakai produk ini secara berkala, seminggu 2 - 3 kali sekitar 25 gram per ton.
Caranya, saya aduk dulu di gelas lalu saya tuangkan ke chamber filter agar endapan putihnya bisa tersedot sewaktu backwash.
Hasilnya ... ikan lebih sehat (suka berenang gak diem saja) dan kulit lebih glossy.

mikaelsebastian
12-06-2012, 10:53 PM
Betul kata om om diatas ... Kalau mau jernihkan air mending perhatikan filtrasinya - it's better to prevent than cure.
Saya masih pakai produk ini secara berkala, seminggu 2 - 3 kali sekitar 25 gram per ton.
Caranya, saya aduk dulu di gelas lalu saya tuangkan ke chamber filter agar endapan putihnya bisa tersedot sewaktu backwash.
Hasilnya ... ikan lebih sehat (suka berenang gak diem saja) dan kulit lebih glossy.


Bro alvin bikin gue pengen coba aje......

Lakewood
13-06-2012, 12:21 AM
Fisik nya sperti apa ya omm

waterkeeper
13-06-2012, 07:56 PM
Bro alvin bikin gue pengen coba aje......

Coba aje bro ... refresh yang versi mahal, ada yang koi clay versi lebih murah ...
Salah satu dealer koi pernah coba pake itu, ikannya jadi goyang juga tadinya mulai diem diem.

harryachta
14-06-2012, 01:31 PM
om om semua apa perbedaan dari clay import dengan lokal. mohon bantuannya. maksih