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koisan
31-10-2008, 01:43 PM
Apakah rekan2 ada yg punya pengalaman ttg ikan yg suka naik ke permukaan untuk mengambil oksigen dan menyelam kembali sambil melepaskan O2 ? Apakah Gejala penyakit tertentu or ada masalah di kolam ? Mohon pencerahannya. Tks

fishparadise
31-10-2008, 02:44 PM
1. kekurangan oksige, tambahkan aerasi, yang pastinya dengan Yasunaga
2. Mungkin ada problem dengan insang, silahkan di cek
3. Terkadang hanya karena ada kotoran di insang nya aja ,kalau tidak terjadi terus menerus, tidak masalah .

chester
01-11-2008, 07:09 AM
Of course Yasunaga ya Bud? memang ada aerator merk lain? :lol: :lol:
Yasunaga adalah Official Aerator utk incoming ZNA Indonesia show.
Pernapasan ikan-ikan peserta kontes ada di tangan oom Budi :D :D

cheers

rvidella
01-11-2008, 08:43 AM
Of course Yasunaga ya Bud? memang ada aerator merk lain? :lol: :lol:
Yasunaga adalah Official Aerator utk incoming ZNA Indonesia show.
Pernapasan ikan-ikan peserta kontes ada di tangan oom Budi :D :D

cheers


mantaaaaaaaaap

steamkoi
02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Apakah rekan2 ada yg punya pengalaman ttg ikan yg suka naik ke permukaan untuk mengambil oksigen dan menyelam kembali sambil melepaskan O2 ? Apakah Gejala penyakit tertentu or ada masalah di kolam ? Mohon pencerahannya. Tks

gulping :) ini biasa di sebabkan karena kurangnya kadar oksigen terlarut di dalam air pak :) coba tambahkan Aerasi .. atau mungkin PH air terlalu rendah.

lainnya mungkin ada gangguan pada insang :)

rvidella
02-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Apakah rekan2 ada yg punya pengalaman ttg ikan yg suka naik ke permukaan untuk mengambil oksigen dan menyelam kembali sambil melepaskan O2 ? Apakah Gejala penyakit tertentu or ada masalah di kolam ? Mohon pencerahannya. Tks

gulping :) ini biasa di sebabkan karena kurangnya kadar oksigen terlarut di dalam air pak :) coba tambahkan Aerasi .. atau mungkin PH air terlalu rendah.

lainnya mungkin ada gangguan pada insang :)


tapi biasanya pertanyaannya adalah
kenapa hanya untuk 1 ikan tertentu?
gitu loh buossss

hankoi
02-11-2008, 07:05 PM
tapi biasanya pertanyaannya adalah
kenapa hanya untuk 1 ikan tertentu?
gitu loh buossss

Tyap" ikan mempunyai daya tahan tubuh yang berbeda" , begichu loh Br0 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

svenni
02-11-2008, 10:19 PM
Apakah rekan2 ada yg punya pengalaman ttg ikan yg suka naik ke permukaan untuk mengambil oksigen dan menyelam kembali sambil melepaskan O2 ? Apakah Gejala penyakit tertentu or ada masalah di kolam ? Mohon pencerahannya. Tks

Hi Pak,

if all of your koi do this you should urgently test your oxygen content in the pond. However it is also important that CO2 is evaporating from the water. It can happen in extreme cases that koi sufficate, even if the oxygen in the water is enough. This happens if the CO2 is not taken out of the water. In that case the koi cannot get rid of the CO2 they produce and the intake of fresh oxygen is blocked (carbon-acid balance).

koisan
03-11-2008, 10:49 AM
Apakah rekan2 ada yg punya pengalaman ttg ikan yg suka naik ke permukaan untuk mengambil oksigen dan menyelam kembali sambil melepaskan O2 ? Apakah Gejala penyakit tertentu or ada masalah di kolam ? Mohon pencerahannya. Tks

Hi Pak,

if all of your koi do this you should urgently test your oxygen content in the pond. However it is also important that CO2 is evaporating from the water. It can happen in extreme cases that koi sufficate, even if the oxygen in the water is enough. This happens if the CO2 is not taken out of the water. In that case the koi cannot get rid of the CO2 they produce and the intake of fresh oxygen is blocked (carbon-acid balance).
Hi Mr. Sven,
Thanks for your explaination. I have tested the oxygen content in my pond and it should be at safe level. My question now is how to know if the CO2 is not evaporating from the water ? I was thought if oxygen level in the water is enough than I don't need to worry about CO2. Maybe you can advice me further.. Thanks

svenni
03-11-2008, 09:27 PM
Hi Pak,

if you have enough "bubbles" of your airation reaching the water surface it should be enough to evaporate the CO2. The problem usually occurs if people use Oxygen concentrators without any standard airation. In that case the water surface is very calm and there is no exchange of gases. I also use pure oxygen in some of my ponds but I have my de-gassing in the Helix chamber where the Yasunaga pump is used to move my Helix.

Do all your koi show this behaviour or is it just one?

If only one I would not worry too much :D

cantonguy
04-11-2008, 02:39 AM
Kalo menurut gue , 1 ekor aja yg muncul utk ambil 02 sih ga ada problem.

Kecuali ada 1 ekor yang muncul utk ambil makanan di meja.... ini baru namanya BIG problem... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Riwin

h3ln1k
04-11-2008, 08:23 AM
Kalo menurut gue , 1 ekor aja yg muncul utk ambil 02 sih ga ada problem.

Kecuali ada 1 ekor yang muncul utk ambil makanan di meja.... ini baru namanya BIG problem... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Riwin

:lol: :lol: :lol: wah lha aku mlayu om :lol: :lol:

koisan
04-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Hi Pak,

if you have enough "bubbles" of your airation reaching the water surface it should be enough to evaporate the CO2. The problem usually occurs if people use Oxygen concentrators without any standard airation. In that case the water surface is very calm and there is no exchange of gases. I also use pure oxygen in some of my ponds but I have my de-gassing in the Helix chamber where the Yasunaga pump is used to move my Helix.

Do all your koi show this behaviour or is it just one?

If only one I would not worry too much :D
Thanks for your advice Mr.Sven, I think you right since my pond seems have not enough bubbles to evaporate the CO2. So I had increased the airation last night using additional pump and this morning it looks only 1 or 2 fishes that still behave to take the air (before almost 5-6). Hope it can solved my problem now. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this forum.. :)

koisan
04-11-2008, 11:11 AM
Kalo menurut gue , 1 ekor aja yg muncul utk ambil 02 sih ga ada problem.

Kecuali ada 1 ekor yang muncul utk ambil makanan di meja.... ini baru namanya BIG problem... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Riwin

:lol: :lol: :lol: wah lha aku mlayu om :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: nek iku jenengane showa kepala ireng mas..

KARHOMA
04-11-2008, 11:47 AM
Of course Yasunaga ya Bud? memang ada aerator merk lain? :lol: :lol:
Yasunaga adalah Official Aerator utk incoming ZNA Indonesia show.
Pernapasan ikan-ikan peserta kontes ada di tangan oom Budi :D :D

cheers

mantaaaaaaaaap

:( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :( :(

svenni
07-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Hi Pak,

if you have enough "bubbles" of your airation reaching the water surface it should be enough to evaporate the CO2. The problem usually occurs if people use Oxygen concentrators without any standard airation. In that case the water surface is very calm and there is no exchange of gases. I also use pure oxygen in some of my ponds but I have my de-gassing in the Helix chamber where the Yasunaga pump is used to move my Helix.

Do all your koi show this behaviour or is it just one?

If only one I would not worry too much :D
Thanks for your advice Mr.Sven, I think you right since my pond seems have not enough bubbles to evaporate the CO2. So I had increased the airation last night using additional pump and this morning it looks only 1 or 2 fishes that still behave to take the air (before almost 5-6). Hope it can solved my problem now. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this forum.. :)

Hi Pak,

I am happy to hear that :D . The most important is that the koi stay healthy :mrgreen:

h3ln1k
07-11-2008, 10:06 AM
that's right bro sven :wink:

William Pantoni
13-11-2008, 08:21 AM
Om koisan...
Gimana ikan nya? Msh suka naik keatas?

Sy jg ada 1 ekor ( cuma 1 ) nih yg seperti gitu...

Apakah berbahaya ?
Rekan2 ada yg bisa bantu? Di kolam udah ada pakai 1 airpump.

koisan
13-11-2008, 08:31 AM
Om koisan...
Gimana ikan nya? Msh suka naik keatas?

Sy jg ada 1 ekor ( cuma 1 ) nih yg seperti gitu...

Apakah berbahaya ?
Rekan2 ada yg bisa bantu? Di kolam udah ada pakai 1 airpump.
Masih ada sih 1-2 ekor, tapi selama kondisi ikannnya ok2 aja gak terlalu jadi masalah om Will..
yg saya lakukan adalah mengurangi makan utk ikan2 tsb alias diet krn keliatannya obesitas jg bisa menyebabkan ikan berprilaku seperti itu.

Cheers..

h3ln1k
13-11-2008, 08:52 AM
oo kalo orang kegerahan gitu kali ya om mangkanya nyari yg adem2 dg naek keatas :mrgreen:

koisan
13-11-2008, 10:19 AM
betul om, klo orang Semarang bilang leyeh..leyeh sambil buka baju di depan teras rumah sambil kipas-kipas supaya dapat oksigen lebih.. nah koi juga kurang lebih begicu om.. :lol:

h3ln1k
13-11-2008, 11:10 AM
betul om, klo orang Semarang bilang leyeh..leyeh sambil buka baju di depan teras rumah sambil kipas-kipas supaya dapat oksigen lebih.. nah koi juga kurang lebih begicu om.. :lol:

kalo koi ane bisa buka baju kipas2 gitu waaa lari dah anee :lol: :lol:

Gom 7rait
14-11-2008, 11:14 AM
Sharing juga nih...

Saya juga punya koi yang sekali-kali naik setengah badan ngambil udara dan nyelam sambil ngeluarin bubble. Hal ini sudah berlangsung lama dan hanya dia. Klo mungkin O2 defisit knapa yang lain pada biasa aja bahkan yang lebih besar dari dia? Sepertinya koi tersebut punya problem, entah apa itu dibanding air kolam yang problem.

cheers