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ari-radja
27-08-2007, 01:05 PM
Para penghuni baru kolam saya dari Blitar. Mohon komentarnya. Bebas saja, nggak marah kok, malah senang bisa belajar. Nuwun.
Ari - Solo


http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_satu.jpg

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_dua.jpg

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_tiga.jpg

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_empat.jpg

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_lima.jpg

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_enam.jpg

masterpizzkoi
28-08-2007, 12:22 PM
Bila koi sudah anda beli dan berada dikolam, rasanya itu semua pasti ikan bagus sesuai pilihan anda. Jadi tidak perlu dikomentari lagi. Tapi bila anda akan membeli koi, maka komentar dari rekan2 sangat diperlukan untuk membantu anda dalam mempertimbangkannya, terutama harga dibanding kualitas.

boby_icon
28-08-2007, 02:31 PM
koinya bagus - bagus pak ari.
belinya berapaan tuh ? belinya langsung di blitar sana pa dimana ?

ari-radja
28-08-2007, 03:16 PM
Wah...., terima kasih bgt pak Masterpiezze.koi atas bantuan ''penampakan'' foto-foto saya. Saya nggak tahu kenapa nggak muncul ya, padahal uploadnya sudah sesuai dengan prosedur lho. Pak boby_icon ikan2 itu saya beli langsung dari Blitar. umur 4 - 4,5 bulan, ukuran rata-rata 25 cm. Harganya Rp 500 ribu per ekor, diberi bonus 1 ekor tancho. Kemahalen ya pak? Bisa jadi besar nggak ya pak, ya minimal mencapai 60 - 70 cm? Kolam saya 3 m x 4 m x 1,5 m (kedalaman). Nuwun pak.

Rgds,
Ari - Solo

ari-radja
28-08-2007, 03:51 PM
Baik Pak Masterpieze, matur nuwun atas petuahnya. Lha, kalau yang dua ini rencananya akan saya beli dari koi-collection: oomo showa 25 cm (Rp 3,5 juta) dan maruyama kohaku 35 cm (Rp 1,95 jt). Kira-kira dari sisi kualitas bagaimana ya? Apakah bisa tumbuh besar? Matur nuwun.

Ari - Solo

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/kohaku_maruyama.jpg
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/showaoomo-male.jpg

masterpizzkoi
28-08-2007, 04:48 PM
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/kohaku_maruyama.jpg
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/showaoomo-male.jpg [/img]

Showanya tampil lebih bagus.

Untuk selanjutnya, agar lebih leluasa dalam memberikan komentar, sebaiknya anda tidak sebutkan /cantumkan nama dealer koi. Jadi tidak ada 'benturan' kepentingan.

Salam

boby_icon
28-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Lha, kalau yang dua ini rencananya akan saya beli dari koi-collection: oomo showa 25 cm (Rp 3,5 juta) dan maruyama kohaku 35 cm (Rp 1,95 jt). Kira-kira dari sisi kualitas bagaimana ya? Apakah bisa tumbuh besar? Matur nuwun.

kita tunggu komentarnya mr.sven ... :lol:
kohakunya bagus tapi kliatannya jantan pak.
bagusan yang showa deh kayaknya tapi kliatannya jantan juga ya pak ?

boby_icon
28-08-2007, 05:32 PM
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_lima.jpg

Bila koi sudah anda beli dan berada dikolam, rasanya itu semua pasti ikan bagus sesuai pilihan anda.

saya paling suka ikan pak ari yang ini , showa ginrin ya pak ?

laukkoi
29-08-2007, 07:13 AM
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/kohaku_maruyama.jpg


Pak Ari - Radja,
Kohaku diatas itu dua step ato bukan ??
Aku perhatikan di sekitar sirip punggung ada "titik" merah (disebelah kiri sirip) yang menyatukan warna merah, jadi batas antar warna merah tidak tegas. Tapi warna merahnya bagus.

Salam koi,
alf

Gom 7rait
29-08-2007, 10:18 AM
Pak ari... ntar saya lihat di tempat bapak langsung juga yah, sambil bawa plastik...
He..eee...

salam

svenni
29-08-2007, 02:25 PM
[quote="ari-radja":17njcf4c]Lha, kalau yang dua ini rencananya akan saya beli dari koi-collection: oomo showa 25 cm (Rp 3,5 juta) dan maruyama kohaku 35 cm (Rp 1,95 jt). Kira-kira dari sisi kualitas bagaimana ya? Apakah bisa tumbuh besar? Matur nuwun.

kita tunggu komentarnya mr.sven ... :lol:
kohakunya bagus tapi kliatannya jantan pak.
bagusan yang showa deh kayaknya tapi kliatannya jantan juga ya pak ?[/quote:17njcf4c]

Hi,

the showa is now approx. 30 cm and it is a male. The sumi has developped and is stronger now. The Maruyama has also grown approx. 5 cm and the white between the 2 steps has become bigger now. The Kohaku is a female and the body (like all Maruyama koi) is very good. Compared to the high grade Maruyama the beni quality is not that good but it is still very good. For the size potential I think that these koi will definately grow up to 70+ cm, if conditions in the pond allow it. :wink:

wibowo
29-08-2007, 03:43 PM
kalau kata pak sven yg kohaku female, ambil yg kohaku saja ..
dulu saya incar showa female di tempat pak sven tapi kalah cepat, sudah diambil orang pas sy telpon hehehe ..

ari-radja
30-08-2007, 02:23 AM
kalau kata pak sven yg kohaku female, ambil yg kohaku saja ..
dulu saya incar showa female di tempat pak sven tapi kalah cepat, sudah diambil orang pas sy telpon hehehe ..

Terima kasih atas sarannya Bapak-bapak. Pak Wibowo, saya memang mau ambil 2 koi itu. Mr Sven, I decided to buy these two kois. I have sent a sms and email to Mr Roni about it. Next time, I'll buy kois from your ponds again.

Best Regards,
Ari - Solo

Gom 7rait
30-08-2007, 05:05 AM
The Kohaku is a female and the body (like all Maruyama koi) is very good. Compared to the high grade Maruyama the beni quality is not that good but it is still very good.

Halo Pak Sven

So the Lo/Hi grade will definitely can be seen on their prices? A bit confuse when price also depend on size. Shortly; how to distinguish lo/hi grade on a dealer display? Thnks Pak

Regards
Gom

ari-radja
30-08-2007, 12:21 PM
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/ari-raja05/koiku/an_lima.jpg

Bila koi sudah anda beli dan berada dikolam, rasanya itu semua pasti ikan bagus sesuai pilihan anda.

saya paling suka ikan pak ari yang ini , showa ginrin ya pak ?


Terima kasih comment-nya pak. Ikan itu bukan ginrin, pak.
Regards,
Ari

svenni
30-08-2007, 08:12 PM
The Kohaku is a female and the body (like all Maruyama koi) is very good. Compared to the high grade Maruyama the beni quality is not that good but it is still very good.

Halo Pak Sven

So the Lo/Hi grade will definitely can be seen on their prices? A bit confuse when price also depend on size. Shortly; how to distinguish lo/hi grade on a dealer display? Thnks Pak

Regards
Gom

Hi Pak Gomgom,

the price depends a lot on the quality of the koi. In our region size is not an issue as we have warm temperatures all over the year and koi grow fast. In Europe size will be a much bigger factor as it takes far longer to grow a koi to a certain size.

I can only speak about my own company philosophy which is based on long term business. If we sell an expenisve koi it is definately a high quality koi and not just a matter of the name or the size of it. But also reasonable priced koi should have a certain quality level, otherwise the new owner will not be happy with it and refuse to buy koi from you again. I want people to be proud of the koi they buy.

Coming to the judgement of koi on a dealer display. Firstly it is important to check whether the koi I buy are local koi or imported koi. Local koi do not have any significant transportation/import costs and should be a lot cheaper. Furthermore local koi might have a good quality but their size potential ends at about 60cm in more than 95%. The main difference on imported koi is the body structure which is much stronger than on local koi. Also the size potential is at least 15-20% higher compared to local koi. Beside the body structure you have to check colour quality and pattern. A dealer usually should be able to explain why koi A is higher in price than koi B or what are the main factors for the selling price. Anyway, the best experience is to see as many koi as possible and especially see them on a show. That helps best to make a judgement. :D

Gom 7rait
31-08-2007, 05:20 AM
Halo Pak Sven

Thank you very much pak your explanation, tackful and seem very honest to me.
I thought, this stage in koi keeping is very important, where, to keep koi also is long term basis. To decide where and what price, which kois we are going to buy and will keep in our pond is a time consume process, lot of consideration, especially for beginner like me.
Those are main reasons for my question. A step forward.

Regards
Gom Sirait