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Coolwater
27-12-2007, 02:40 PM
Saya ga tau pasti apa ini tempat yg tepat utk membahas hal ini. Kalo salah, mohon di pindahkan ke forum yg tepat.

Saya ingin membahas khususnya warna pada ikan Koi. Akhir2 ini saya melihat warna ikan koi saya memudar, merah menjadi orange, orange menjadi kuning, hitam menjadi abu2, dark brown menjadi light brown. Terus terang saya ga tau ini karena makanan atau kwalitas air. Kalaupun ini disebabkan makanan atau air, apakah warna2 ini bisa kembali seperti semula? Bagaimana saya menyelidiki penyebabnya? Apa yg harus saya lakukan?

Mohon bantuan dan masukan dr para pecinta koi.

showa
27-12-2007, 03:02 PM
air di kolam sebaiknya di cek om, semua parameternya sangat mudah ko
bawa contoh air dan masukkan ke tempat pengecekkan air ( lab ) terdekat dari rumah om.

setelah itu kita perbaiki yg bisa di perbaiki apa saja yg harus di perbaiki atas kondisi air di kolam ikan koi om.

Coolwater
28-12-2007, 11:38 AM
Tempat pengecekan air? Saya ga pernah tau ada tempat cek air. Biasanya tempatnya ada di mana?

koibyte
28-12-2007, 12:38 PM
kalau yang saya tahu om dicek di lab universitas terdekat aja, soalnya dulu teman saya pernah cek air tuh di kampus trus di lab farmasinya

Tancho
28-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Pak, Apakah kolamnya indoor atau minim sinar matahari?
Jika iya mungkin penyebabnya kurang sinar matahari,
Karena saya pernah beli ikan kohaku tetapi kuning (sebelumnya sy gak tahu kalau itu kohaku :( ), setelah 2 bulan di kolam saya yg cukup sinar matahari berubah jadi oranye.

Salam
Tancho

Coolwater
28-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Kolam saya outdoor, hanya di 1/4 bagian kolam yg kena matahari. Kena matahari atau ngaknya ya tergantung ikannya berenang ke bagian mananya kolam. Apa warna kolam bisa berpengaruh terhadap perubahan warnanya?

Tapi saya kurang yakin ini gara2 matahari, soalnya saya pergi ke byk tempat jual koi termasuk Nirwana Koi dan ikan2nya semua ga ada yg kena cahaya matahari.

hankoi
30-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Banyak sedikit masuknya cahaya matahari sangat berpengaruh pada ketebalan warna Koi di samping pakan yang diberikan.

kalo cahaya sedikit maka ikan bisa menjadi pucat.
dan kalo makanan yang diberikan adalah yang untuk Grow dan tidak diselingi pemberian pakan Color maka bisa juga ikan tumbuh terlalu cepat dan memudarkan warnanya

:)

Coolwater
30-12-2007, 07:24 PM
Jarang sekali saya beri pakan utk grow lebih sering pakan utk pencerah warna, paling 1 kali dalam 1 minggu kadang 1 kali dalam 2 minggu saya kasih yg utk grow. Apakah warnanya bisa kembali seperti semula?

valmh
07-01-2008, 12:52 PM
Happy reading !!! semoga ikut membantu rekan-rekan yang lagi penasaran mencari "dari mana datangnya warna"... :wink:

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The United Colors of Nishikigoi

By Dr. David Pool, Tetra Reprint courtesy of Nishikigoi International via Cascade Koi & Goldfish Club

The coloration and patterns of a Koi are in many cases, the thing that attracts people into the hobby of Koi keeping. These same two factors are also very important in determining the quality and therefore value of any particular fish.

Yet our understanding of fish and, particularly Koi, coloration is still and inexact science, which is plagued by theories, old wives tales and relatively few facts.

My aim here is to provide an overview Kai coloration and in doing so help to explain some of the mysterious changes you may have noticed in your own fish.

What makes color?

The coloration of a Kai is produced by three color pigments which are contained within cells called chromataphores. The three pigments are Erythrin (red), Melanin (black) and Xanthin (yellow), each of which occurs, in different chromataphores. Complementing the color pigment are irridocytes which can be best described as tiny reflective spheres within the skin.

All of the colors we see on our Kai are a mixture of these components. For example orange is a combination of red and yellow chromataphores; brown is a mixture of black and yellow and red is just the red chromataphores. If there are no chromataphores present the Koi will appear white due to the irridocytes However, the position of the irridocytes within the skin affects its reflective properties. If they are on the surface of the scales the Kai will have a silvery appearance. If they are in the lower layers of the skin the fish will have a mat color.

In certain cases, the irridocytes can combine with the chromataphores to produce reflective colors (e.g. gold on the surface). Blue is an unusual color in that it is a result of deep lying black pigment with irridocytes in the middle of layers of the skin. The irriclocytes interfere with the light to give a blue color.

Destiny of color

The chromatophores may be positioned on the surface of the skin (above the scales), immediately under the scales or deep in the skin. If the chromataphores are very dense the coloration will also appear dense, with the chromataphores on the surface of the skin blocking those below. However, the position of the chromataphores affects the 'stability' of the color. The chromataphores on the surface of the skin will often produce unstable coloration due to them being removed or spreading as the fish ages. Those deep in the skin are more stable and less likely to break up. The ideal is to have the some, dense color pigment in all layers of the skin. This results in both a dense and stable color.

Where does the color come from?

Koi cannot synthesize their own color pigment therefore they have to consume it. In wild conditions the color pigments would originate from eating algae, shrimps, snails etc, In the confines of a Kai pond there is insufficient of these different organisms to satisfy the Kai's requirements, therefore it is important to feed color-enhancing foods. As with all Koi feeds, it is important that the color enhancing food given is of high quality to ensure that the pigments are in a form that the fish can absorb into its body.

If color foods are not given to your Koi, the chromatophores would not be filled with pigment and the Koi will look pale or poorly colored. This can result in a Kai of high potential quality only looking mediocre. Feeding a color food would greatly enhance the appearance of such a Kai - but could not make a poor Kai great.

When the chromataphores are filled with pigment, the excess is passed through the Koi in the feces. It is possible to get white areas of the koi becoming pink due to a temporary build up of Erythrin. This pigment is not in a chromataphores and will quickly disappear as soon as the amount of color food given is reduced.


Aging

Each Kai is born with a fixed number of chromotaphores which remains relatively constant throughout its life. As the Kai ages and grows, these chromataphores, have to cover a larger area of skin therefore there is a tendency for the coloration to become paler (due to the chromataphores becoming less dense) or to fragment. This helps to explain why many stunning young Koi are not as attractive when they are slightly larger. Buying young fish from a known *high quality bloodline" usually means you are buying fish with more dense chromataphores, which results in the color remaining even when the Koi has grown.

In some varieties (e.g. Sanke and Showa) it is common for the pattern to change considerably as the fish grows due to the surface color fragmenting and revealing a deeper different color. When your Koi become very old they tend to become paler and in some cases turn white. This is the equivalent of our hair turning gray and cannot be reversed.


Changing Color

A chromatophore is a branched cell, within which the color pigment can be moved. The two extremes are that the pigment spreads though out the entire cell (which results in the Koi being the color of the cell) or it is concentrated in one small spot in the center (resulting in the background color showing through - usually pale or dark). The distribution of this pigment is affected by a number of different factors including:

Water Quality - Different water quality conditions can have a major impact on the coloration of the Koi. Raised levels of pollutants (e.g. ammonia, nitrite or nitrate) will cause the pigment to contract, resulting in the Koi losing its color. pH and hardness affect coloration differently, red pigment tends to spread in softer, more acidic water, whereas black pigment spreads in harder more alkaline water and vice versa.

Background Color - Although it is difficult to merge into the background when you are a red and white Koi, they do try to do so. Against a pale background the Koi contract the pigment to make themselves as, pale as possible. The opposite occurs when the Koi is next to a dark background, which is why blue vats are used at Koi shows to ensure each Koi looks at its best.

Treatments - Salt is often added to Koi ponds as a treatment or to control nitrite toxicity, however, it causes the pigment to concentrate resulting in poorer coloration. The same is true for antibiotics, whether added to the water or injected and malachite green based remedies.

Algae - Koi (and goldfish) which have lived in an algae rich, green pond often appear intensely colored due to the color pigment spreading in the chromataphores. This effect can be recreated without the "green water' by using Tetra Pond Koi Vital.

Temperature - At high summer temperatures pigments contract; at cool autumn and winter values they expand resulting in the koi looking at their best in the cooler months of the year.

This list could be continued, but hopefully some of the examples my help to explain color changes in your Koi which you have observed. Unfortunately these things don't happen in isolation, making it very difficult to ascertain exactly what caused the coloration of your Koi, this can only be remedied by more people making more accurate records of the coloration of their Koi and what happens when conditions change.

Coolwater
07-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Kalo menurut penjelasan di atas, cuma ada 2 sebab yg membuat koi saya keliatan pucat. Kondisi air atau background color.

Kalo disebabkan oleh kondisi air. Saya belum tahu pasti karena air kolam saya belum pernah di test.
Kalo disebabkan background color. Masa sih? Memang warna kolam saya biru muda, tapi apa bener ini berpengaruh?
Banyak juga yg bilang disebabkan oleh kurangnya sinar matahari. Tapi penjelasan di atas tidak menyebutkan perihal matahari.

Skrg saya jadi tambah bingung, baiknya gimana ya?

ratnoadi
01-06-2013, 08:44 AM
Mohon pencerahan para senior, saya masih pemula dan baru pelihara koi

Saya punya koi ada warna merah (tidak bulat seeh) di kepala dan bertaburan warna perak di badan yang putih ukuran 15cm (kelihatannya kohaku ginrin kalo baca dan lihat di artikel)

kenapa warna merah makin lama makin pudar dan akhirnya jadi hilang dan hanya tersisa warna putih dan warna perak yang bertebaran di badannnya .. jadi sedih saya :help:

Pertama punya koi saya kasih makan pelet yang 100gr, warna tetap cerah, kemudian saya beli pelet merah yang kiloan (memang lebih murah 1/2nya)
apa karena sebab itu warna merah pada koi saya hilang ya????

mohon saran dan pencerahannya para senior dan master ...:help:

kolam saya kecil ukuran 2m x 2m x 0.5m detail kolamku http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbOLpsHSVO4

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