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paimo
15-04-2008, 03:35 PM
bapak-bapak senior koi`s....
mohon penjelasan tingkatan umur koi.....
misal :
disebut burayak sampai umur berapa dan cirinya apa...?
disebut tosai sampai umur berapa dan cirinya apa........?
disebut nisai sampai umur berapa dan cirinya apa........?
dan tingkatan umur selanjutnya..................................? :arrow:

dattairadian
16-04-2008, 05:56 AM
Tosai = dibawah 1 tahun
Nisai = lebih dari 1 tahun, dibawah 2 tahun
Sansai = lebih dari 2 tahun, dibawah 3 tahun
Yonsai = lebih dari 3 tahun, dibawah 4 tahun
Gosai = lebih dari 4 tahun, balita :wink:

paimo
16-04-2008, 07:51 AM
:D :D :D terimakasih bos datta....
kalo umur koi yang paling tua berapa tahun pak.....? :arrow:

dattairadian
16-04-2008, 12:39 PM
rekor dunia 200-thn an :shock:

valmh
16-04-2008, 05:07 PM
Tosai itu contohnya seperti saya ini pak :oops:

beclge
16-04-2008, 07:01 PM
umur 200 thn koinya segede apa ya??? :wink:

dattairadian
16-04-2008, 08:01 PM
Ukurannya cuma 77cm Pak dan beratnya 9 kg. Umur tepatnya 226 tahun.
Untuk rekor panjang koi sendiri tercatat 1,53 meter dengan berat 45kg...

paimo
17-04-2008, 07:52 AM
kayak ikan purba ya...
jadi koi bisa berumur panjang ya....ck...ck..ck... :shock:

dattairadian
17-04-2008, 08:53 AM
ikan tersebut dipelihara oleh 3 generasi ... kakek-anak-cucu :wink:

valmh
17-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Pak Datta kalau punya fotonya almarhum Hanako boleh dong pak dibagi2 ke kita... many thanks pak Datta :wink:

-mul-

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ID KOI's 190506075

Happy reading : ... __________________________________________________ _______________________________________________

The World's Oldest Koi

One of the reasons that the Japanese people value an outstanding Koi is that they consider them to be living jewels. When Koi are purchased, they are looked upon as long lived creatures to be passed down from generation to generation. The story of the oldest recorded Koi is fascinating, and the information below is taken from June 1997 issue of Koi USA magazine. The full story is a transcription of a radio broadcast done by Dr. Koshihara, and first published in "Live Jewels" in 1968. It is reprinted verbatim in Koi USA, and my writing does not do justice to the event.

Hanako is the name of this Koi that lived at the base of Mt. Ontake. When Dr. Koshihara would call Hanako from across the pond, she would come to his feet to be petted on the head. Occasionally he would take her out of the pond and embrace her. This was his favorite spot at the side of the pond, and he went there often.

The pond is located deep in the mountains of the Mino Province. The waters are pure that feed this pond which is less than 20 feet across. Besides Hanako, there are five other fish that swim in this pond, and each is also old. They are 170 years, 155, 151, 141, and another 141 years old. The Koshihara family had been the village head for many generation from the time of the Tokugawa shogunate, and the house and pond had been with the family since the beginning.

Hanako died on July 17, 1977 at the age of 226 years.

How was Hanako's age determined?

Dr.Koshihara was often asked how he could tell the age of the fish, and he responded in the article as follows:

As a tree trunk has its annual rings, so a fish has its annual rings on its scales, and we have only to count them to know the age of a fish. As a matter of course, we ourselves cannot do it. It requires a specialist's aid and the use of a light microscope. Now, what was it that made me think of ascertaining the carp's age?

My grandmother on maternal side, who left this world at the advanced age of 93 some eight years ago, is said to have been told by her mother-in-law. "When I was married into this family, my mother-in-law said to me, that carp has been handed down to us from olden times; you must take good care of that. When I was told this story I became very curious to know how long the carp had lived. I found out Hanako's age by the aforesaid method, but you can easily imagine how greatly I grieved when I was forced to take a scale off her beautiful body. I caught her in a net very cautiously, and repeatedly saying. Excuse me. I took off two scales from different parts of her body by using a strong pincette. The scales were examined by Prof. Masayoshi Hiro, D. Sc. Laboratory of Domestic Science, Nagoya Women's College. It took two months for him to acquire a satisfactory result. By using a light microscope, he photographed every part of the scales. It seems he took a great deal more trouble than that. When it was ascertained beyond doubt that the carp was 215 years old, we two exchanged a look of delightful surprise.[/b]

http://www.arborman.com/koioldest.htm

dattairadian
17-04-2008, 05:24 PM
Pak Datta kalau punya fotonya almarhum Hanako boleh dong pak dibagi2 ke kita... many thanks pak Datta :wink:

ngga punya pak Mul .... :wink:

beclge
17-04-2008, 07:25 PM
ini photo ikan hanako..ini cuma linknya aja
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/225 ... 1e90_o.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/2255019328_bc8b2d1e90_o.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/balcer17/2255019328/
kali..

karom
17-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Tosai = dibawah 1 tahun
Nisai = lebih dari 1 tahun, dibawah 2 tahun
Sansai = lebih dari 2 tahun, dibawah 3 tahun
Yonsai = lebih dari 3 tahun, dibawah 4 tahun
Gosai = lebih dari 4 tahun, balita :wink:

kalo yg 226 tahun .. istilahnya apa ya ... ?? :shock:

hankoi
17-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Kalau menurut silsilah jawa adalah:
Grepak senthe, gantung siwur, udheg-udheg, wareng, canggah, buyut, embah, bapak/ibu, anak.
Kalau umurnya 226 th, dengan perkiraan 1 generasi 50 th, maka jika diurut balik kebelakang jatuhnya di wareng.
WARENGGOI :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

arungtasik
17-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Sebenarnya soal usia Hanako juga masih diperdebatkan Pak. Termasuk oleh Peter Waddington, penulis Koi Kichi yang terkenal itu. Memang Hanako sangat tua, tapi apakah setua itu? Saya pernah baca bahwa Koshihara yang memang kolektor koi-koi tua kerap ditanya, bagaimana ia tahu umur Hanako dan koi tua lain di kolamnya itu?

Menurut pengakuan Koshihara sendiri, hitungannya berdasarkan lingkar tahunan di sisik koi yang bisa dihitung di bawah mikroskop -- sebagaimana pohon memiliki lingkar tahunan pada penampang batangnya.

Kendati begitu, tidak sedikit orang yang meragukan cara menghitung usia koi seperti ini. Ada yang mengatakan, penampakan lingkar tahunan di sisik koi bisa dipakai sampai umur tertentu saja, tapi tidak sampai ratusan. Soalnya, lingkar tahunan itu bisa saja tidak akurat karena pengaruh cuaca, pertumbuhan tak normal dan lain-lain.

Benar tidaknya perkiraan usia Hanoko, ia pasti sudah sangat tua pada saat ditemukan mati.

Salam
Tomi

paimo
18-04-2008, 07:41 AM
wah...gede banget koi-nya....

kalo koi lokal seperti koi blitar dll.....berapa umur yg paling tua dan ukuran berapa yg paling panjang....? :?: :arrow:

Ajik Raffles
18-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Tosai = dibawah 1 tahun
Nisai = lebih dari 1 tahun, dibawah 2 tahun
Sansai = lebih dari 2 tahun, dibawah 3 tahun
Yonsai = lebih dari 3 tahun, dibawah 4 tahun
Gosai = lebih dari 4 tahun, balita :wink:

kalo yg 226 tahun .. istilahnya apa ya ... ?? :shock:

226 tahun + 77 cm? itu namanya Bonsai...
Klo gak yakin, buka aja kamus om SUNU... :lol: :lol: :lol:

mdharmaw
18-04-2008, 12:22 PM
Bukan Bonsai Om Ajik.......

Itu koi kayaknya waktu umur 100th udah hampir 2 meter tapi terus susut lagi jadi 77cm...dagingnya ampe keras kayaknya tuh... :lol:

Jadi namanya Kolotsai..... :x :x :x :lol: :lol: :P :P



Cheers,

hankoi
18-04-2008, 07:06 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

William Pantoni
19-04-2008, 03:53 PM
226 tahun ???????....Pantes org2 bilang, koi adalah ikan pembawa keberuntungan dan panjang umur bagi owner nya.

hankoi
19-04-2008, 07:18 PM
Lebih panjang umur ikannya pak daripada umur ownernya :wink: :wink: :wink:
Kalau membawa keberuntungan, mungkin lebih tepatnya dapat untung dulu baru bisa punya Koi :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

William Pantoni
19-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Betul jg...klu owner nya ga dpt untung dulu...jadi ga bisa punya koi yah pak.

hankoi
19-04-2008, 07:42 PM
Betul sekali pak William :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

acceslist
28-04-2008, 11:54 AM
Kesimpulannya orang yang punya Koi adalah orang beruntung... He..he..he. Kalau ingin punya koi berumur panjang berarti hobi piara koi harus diturunkan ke anak cucu kita. Kalau anak atau cucu gak hobi piara koi nanti malah digoreng hik..hikk